A preview of Oprah’s interview with Neil Patrick Harris and David Burtka which airs Sunday on OWN

OWN has released a preview of Oprah’s Next Chapter which debuts on Sunday night and features Miss Winfrey’s interview with Neil Patrick Harris and David Burtka.

This portion is so interesting because we’ve never heard Neil so open and honest about his early days as a new dad to their 18-month old twins, Harper and Gideon:

Oprah: Was one of you more maternal?

David: That would be me. For sure.

Neil: Yeah I didn’t love the first 6-9 months.

Oprah: You didn’t’?

Neil: No. And I struggled with it a lot.

Oprah: You did?

Neil: Like in therapy with my own therapist.

Oprah: I’m so happy to hear you admit that because that is my, you know, I have God children and I’m like, ‘I’ll see them when they’re two.’

Neil: Well that’s just it when they are little and they are just crying then I didn’t know what’s wrong, and I try to soothe you and you’re still crying and I know that he’s more maternal and is much more intuitive with that, so I would pass off and then like, fix the crib, or like, clean the dishes or, I’d do my work. I wouldn’t just vanish, but I would try to provide but I didn’t feel like I was bonding with them.

Oprah: Oh interesting.

Neil: Which was ok, because I still feel like my strengths will come when it’s like, ‘Papa, let’s build a fort.’ And I love forts, let’s do that! But I need to know that they want to build a fort.

Oprah: When they can talk!

David: Yeah, when they can communicate.

Neil: Yeah, or tell me what’s wrong or have a conversation. I think that that’s where my strength’s will come and be more in the forefront.

Oprah: Do you want more kids? Or is two enough?

Neil: Oh don’t start with this conversation.

The couple also opens up about what it was like for them growing up gay, Harris’s decision to come out in Hollywood and its impact on his career, and raising children in a household with two fathers.

They share the private struggles in their relationship as Burtka, both a trained chef and actor, says it isn’t easy being in a relationship where one person is more famous and successful than the other. Neil speaks openly about the stress of living in Hollywood and the pressure of knowing the entire world is watching their family to see if they can go the distance.